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Posted by Navaid on June 30, 2000 at 16:22:33:

In Reply to: i don't think so posted by jocelyne on June 30, 2000 at 10:43:24:

Dear Jocelyne,

You are right, that was perhaps 2years ago, that was very begining
period of developments of my coloured henna pastes, and I was more
then cautious to disclose my ingredients. Now I realised that its not
possible for others to duplicate my coloured henna pastes, but even
then I am taking care of my business secrecy, and giving ingredients
only to those companies who originate from USA/Canada or Europe, I am
not giving to any company who have any contacts with India or Pakitan.

Last year, I saw your website and found that you selling coloured
henna , however if you are still interested in my produts, I will
immediately send to you my samples. Because by now I have improved a
lot in the dying capacity and now the dyed skin remains vibrant for
almost 2 weeks. Would you like to try my sample ?

Navaid
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: uh, you may say that, but when I ordered some of your "coloured
: henna" paste I asked you in repeated emails (about 4 of them as I
: recall) to send me a list of ingredients and you never did.


: :
: : I remember having written here that if anybody wants to know my
: : ingredients of Black Henna Paste, I will disclose to him/her
: : personally, as I did with my buyers. You must have an idea that
: : almost all of the henna suppliers from India / Pakistan and other
: : places trying best to develop black henna paste and as none of
them
: : still successful in developing a 100% safe product, LIKE MINE. So
: my
: : disclosure of ingredients on this forum will definately be a
: crucial
: : act for my business. I hope you will realise this fact.

: : I am sorry, if you find my posts confusing and feels irritation by
: my
: : explaination of my products. But again I request you people to
make
: : your warning posts "effective" and not only simply 'informative'
.
: : kindly mention the brand name, artist or shops name from where
: these
: : people suffering. So by this way, my black henna paste could be
: : excluded automatically from the dangerous lot. This is the main
: thing,
: : which I want here to be mentioned.
: : Anyway, if you find my posts confusing, please send me email
: directly
: : at : navaid@fascom.com IT will be pleasure to read your email.

: : Navaid

: : : Navaid, dear, if you would just tell us what is in your paste,
we
: : : wouldn't have to badger you like this, but please stop confusing
: : : people! You tell them to be carefull, and always to know what
: they
: : : are putting on their bodies, but then you advertise for
: your "safe
: : : black henna" and you won't even tell us what's in it! As with
the
: : : folks from Rainbow black henna, you, my dear, are missing the
: point.

: :
: : :
: : : : I think the best and most effective way to 'red alert'
: or 'warn'
: : : : general people for hazardous effects of Black Henna, Is that
: you
: : : : people must mention here the name of Artist, brand name of
: product
: : : or
: : : : atleast name of place where you were suffered with Black
Henna.

: : : : Navaid
: : : : site: www.navaidhenna.com
: : : : supplier of 100% safe to apply on skin Black Henna paste

: : : : -------------------------------------------------------------

: : : :
: : : : : Finnaly, a victim who hasn't just let it be, and who knows
: : : exactly
: : : : : all the details!!!! Yay! Do you know what the name of the
: : product
: : : he
: : : : : was using is?

: : : : : : Natural Henna users will more than likely be getting sick
: of
: : : these
: : : : : reports by victims.

: : : : : No we won't, dear...:-)

: : : : : : However I would like to point out that I have found no
: advice
: : : on
: : : : : how to treat the aftermath of these chemical burns. And
: would
: : : like
: : : : : to give what I have learnt to other victims that WILL have
: the
: : : same
: : : : : problems in the future.

: : : : : : After showing the same signs as the pictures on this site
I
: : : took
: : : : : the advice and consulted a doctor. The prescription given
is
: a
: : : : : combination of steroids (not to be confused with anabolic
: : : steroids
: : : : : sometimes misused by body builders) and antibiotics. This
: came
: : : in a
: : : : : cream form and I have to apply it to the affected area.

: : : : : : The doctor that I saw has had past experience with this
: type
: : of
: : : : : reaction. To my dismay she told me that it would take maybe
: a
: : : : couple
: : : : : of months or more for my skin to return to normal. However
: some
: : : : good
: : : : : news is that the people that she has treated in the past
have
: : : shown
: : : : : no lasting scarring or damage. This is only due to
: consulting
: : : the
: : : : : doctor early...before the urge to scratch the damaged area
: : starts
: : : to
: : : : : cause infection (and eventually scarring). The infected
: areas
: : : can
: : : : be
: : : : : seen in the early stages as small white spots that in some
: cases
: : : are
: : : : : no even raised in the affected area. From what I understand
: : this
: : : is
: : : : : where the long lasting problems would have stemmed from. I
: have
: : : not
: : : : : been instructed to cover the area up...or to take any action
: : : other
: : : : : than applying this cream. More details about the treatment
: can
: : : be
: : : : : seen at the bottom of this post.

: : : : : : Once again I stress the importance of consulting a
: doctor...I
: : : : would
: : : : : have left this problem if it were not for this sites warning
: : page.

: : : : : : My story is similar to those that have gone before. After
: : : reading
: : : : : about Henna art and knowing that this was a non-permanent
and
: : : : natural
: : : : : substance I decided to try this on holiday. The result was
a
: : : : : fantastic band around by arm that looked really good.
: However
: : : after
: : : : : much swimming and showering the band started to fade. The
: guy
: : : who
: : : : : did the artwork offered to "top-up" the pattern just before
I
: : : went
: : : : : home. It was one week ago now that the notorious top-up
: : : occurred.
: : : : : Swelling and redness have over-taken the deep brown colour
: that
: : : : : cannot be seen anymore.

: : : : : : I'd like to point out that the swelling did not start to
: occur
: : : : : until 3 days after the so-called "henna" was applied. It
was
: 4
: : : to 5
: : : : : days until the discomfort and itching started. Now one week
: : : later
: : : : my
: : : : : arm is a mess, and I just wish I had this information before
: : this
: : : : : happened.

: : : : : : Judging by past posts to this forum and other information,
: the
: : : : : problem with this Black dye claiming to be Henna is the
: : darkening
: : : : : ingredients. Amongst others, phenylenediamine (or PPD as it
: is
: : : : : sometimes refferred to) is the main problem. My doctor has
: : : : confirmed
: : : : : that she has had to treat other patients that have used hair
: dye
: : : : with
: : : : : this chemical in.

: : : : : : Details about treatment:
: : : : : : There has not been enough time for me to confirm that this
: : : cream
: : : : : works, but I have been assured by the doctor that it has
: worked
: : : for
: : : : : past patients with similar problems.

: : : : : : The cream is called Fucibet.
: : : : : : What is in Fucibet Cream?
: : : : : : The active ingredients in Fucibet Cream are fusidic acid
2%
: : and
: : : : : betamethasone valerate 0.1%

: : : : : : How Does Fucibet Cream Work?
: : : : : : The cream contains an antibiotic (fusidic acid) and a
: steroid
: : : : : (betamethasone valerate). (This steroid should not be
: confused
: : : with
: : : : : anabolic steroids misused by some bodybuilders). It works
by
: : : : : reducing the swelling, Itchiness and redness by killing the
: : : bacteria
: : : : : causing skin infection.

: : : : : : This treatment can only be obtained by a doctor’s
: : prescription.

: : : : : : Raise if you read this, please raise peoples awareness
: about
: : : the
: : : : : Henna pretenders out there. Natural Henna has stood the
test
: of
: : : : time
: : : : : to be safe. It's the modern ingredients that are doing this
: : : : : damage....I would not wish this discomfort on anyone.

: : : : : : 1 Last point for this post. If anyone in unfortunate to
: have
: : : this
: : : : : problem, once the discomfort starts ...... DON'T SCRATCH!
: This
: : : can
: : : : : lead to infection and eventually scarring.

: : : : : : Alan




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