Re: West coast (now going o/t)

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Posted by Anne Beltestad on May 28, 2002 at 22:08:07:

In reply to: West coast posted by Paul Cerra on May 28, 2002 at 17:11:57:

Ok, it was definitely a generalization, but the west coast is I think
more culturally liberal...more lip service paid to recycling (just TRY
to get a NYC deli to not give you sixteen napkins, a bag and two
straws if you buy a juice) but that there is more open debate here. I a budding political scientist I get these theories, you
see, and they are usually fairly broad but tend to hold up pretty
well. My theory on Seattle (and the NW in general) was that it didn't
go through the 60s the same way as california, so the conservatism
there is less the reaganite counterreaction than old-school, 1950s style.
Again, I digress...but yes, for all you east coast, middle of the
country, and elsewhere artists, everything Paul says is true except
that the SF Bay Area isn't all "liberal" -where I grew up was very
homogeneous and intolerant of dissent, which is why i got out fast!

: Anne, that was a GREAT post. Yours too, Kenzi. Lots of wonderful
: details in there. For someone like myself, who has never even
: considered making money from henna (just because I'm new to henna,
: not because I have some sort of moral objection or anything), it was
: a great way to vicariously experience a festival from an artist's
: perspective.
: I just wanted to chime on in something regarding "the west coast":
: : Henna here is very different from Seattle, and it's not just my
: : approach to marketing. Kenzi is right; although the West Coast is
: : *culturally* more "liberal" it's politically more conservative in
: many
: : ways, and NYC the opposite - people dress more conservatively, more
: : conformist, but tend to politically be more "liberal,"
: even "radical."
: I think those are all true statements. But I think that "the west
: coast" is a bit more diverse. For example, San Diego is a very
: conservative town, politically... there is a huge naval base there,
: and the county almost always votes republican, even though California
: is a solidly democratic state. Then there is Los Angeles, with its
: tremendous immigrant population that is usually thought of as
: democratic-leaning, yet the 1st-generation population is often
: conservative because they come from Roman Catholic countries (their
: kids are often different, though.) Going up the coast, you'll come to
: Santa Barbara and San Luis Obispo. This area has curious demographics
: because both cities are college towns. Yet the "industry base" is
: agricultural, and thus conservative. Slow-growth is the mantra there.
: So you have pressures between the young and old... you've got hip
: cafes and clubs right next to feed and tack stores. If you leave
: town, it's all rolling hills and livestock. Continuing Northwards,
: the next big metro area you come to is the San Francisco Bay Area,
: which is considered very liberal... no news there. ;) And so forth.
: I'll spare folks the run-down on the rest of the West Coast
: population centers. I guess my point is simply that I agree with what
: Anne was saying... it's a reasonable generalization... but at the
: same time, I think "the west coast" is really an area that is too big
: to be painted with a broad brush. Then again, I'm not the one doing
: festivals and observing people firsthand, like Anne has done... so
: take my comments with a grain of salt! ;)
: -P


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