An axe grinding racist, huh? Now that is funny...lol!!!
Posted by Maureen on May 29, 2002 at 19:04:10:
In reply to: Professionalism, informed consent and the nature of henna posted by Anne Beltestad on May 29, 2002 at 16:37:40:Hi Anne,
I assure you that I have no axe to grind...except against any notion
that people of color should not expect the same excellent results
from a good henna paste as any other group of people. But one could
grind a warehouse full of axes down and not impact the thoughts and
beliefs of people fixed in beliefs and behaviors and unwilling to
admit how words they have posted here, can and will be interpreted.
I am not interested in expending valuable resourse on axes. Just
posting the opposing view.
Regarding your comment:
: I also cannot understand what sort of axe she's trying to grind
: by claiming I am either racist, promoting PPD, or both.
WOW Anne, that is quite a projection since I never called you a
racist or stated that you were promoting PPD. Since it was not what
I said, you might want to consider where that thought came from!
:" Once more reiterating my position: informing clients about how
: works has nothing to do with the color of their skin; it has to do
: with the nature of henna. I want to inform, to educate, and to give
: them results they will be happy with. Period."
This is a good position. If this had been your initial post, I would
not be writing this now. But it was not part of your original post.
That is the problem. I am very glad that this discourse has brought
you to this particular point and statement. All was not in vain I
: "As Kenzi says, pulling the race card is counterproductive to this
: discussion, and I hope that this is the end of this unfortunate
I repeat for you as I posted above to Kenzi, the race card was put in
the deck by others not by me. Why should anyone get angry when
anyone separates out the problematic card from the rest of the cards
in the deck they are holding up. The notion that I pulled "the" race
card when pointing out some insensitivity inherent in some of the
posts here is just plain silly. You can use any defense and assault
you like to refuse to face the words and potential interpretations of
those words...but when the dust settles, the reality will remain the
same and still be there to face.
The "Maureen against the entire forum" climate your comment is
intended to create is even more silly. But even if it was "only
Maureen" seeing the implication in those posts...that is enough. It
would be great if it were "only Maureen." But, what I know is that
it is not "only Maureen" and will not be "only Maureen." Because
those posts exists and people will come and go from the forum page
and read those posts. People we know are here and people we do not
know are here come and go. My posts are for those folks...especially
people of color who need to know that they will get excellent stains
with henna on their dark skin...despite other posts implying the
contrary. Am I concerned with being the only voice pointing out the
problem with those posts? Heck no!!! Better one than none!
It is too bad the degree of defensiveness in your statements. But
better defensiveness than complacency with the statements made. If
this discussion made you uncomfortable, I assure you that your
measure of discomfort will not approach that of many people of color
who would read a statement that indicated their henna designs placed
on their dark skin would not be visible or seen from a distance.
Anyone without knowledge of the politics of skin color should
probably avoid bringing up the topic.
An axe to grind requires something to grind against. Had I an axe to
grind, this would have indeed been a good place and issue though.
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