Re: Frustarted with this mail-order thing

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Posted by Maureen on October 3, 2002 at 00:18:25:

In reply to: Frustarted with this mail-order thing posted by Lauren on October 2, 2002 at 20:46:20:

Fun and games come with the territory. People seem to figure out the
ways to be devious and act upon them if and when they want to. Ebays
whole feedback thing feeds into this quite well. But fortunately
most people deal straight up.

No one logical would expect to have a shipment sent out when payment
has not been received. But if someone can bluff you into doing it, I
guess it is worth a try. I am sure the person you are dealing with
does not expect you to send the order but would be really really glad
it you did.

There are all sorts of problems with the ways money is sent to eban
and to make online purchases. All can leave the buyer or the seller
vulnerable at some point. Money orders get people's orders sent out
faster but if the money order is not received, then the person
sending the money order is indeed out of their money until the
company issuing it traces it down and cancels it. Looking at a month
minimal to start this process. Plus the practice of honoring money
orders that are not U.S. Postal money orders can be tricky since
there is lots of fraud with money orders in different parts of the
country. PayPal is not as secure as it seems. You can make a
payment with PayPal and if the supplier does not send what you
ordered you can just be S.O.L. Reading PayPal's policies closely
will reveal that they off no assurances and essentially just will
tell you that they investigated and either couldn't collect your
money back...OR, investigated and determined you deserved a refund
that you won't get because there are no funds in the sellers PayPal
account. PayPal is slippery and is not my favorite method of payment
unless I know who I am dealing with.

My advice is to call the bluff on this one. Why send something you
have received no payment for? I don't get it!! Only in the context
of eBay and the feedback thing would this even be considered an

What is more tricky and does seem to be occuring more on eBay are
people stating they never received their packages. That is a
judgement call. There is no way that so many packages could not
reach their destination and not be returned. So, I guess I find both
eBay and PayPal a bit tricky when dealing with people absolutely
unknown to you..whether you are sitting on the side of the seller or



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