This is getting ridiculous!

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Posted by txilar on October 11, 2002 at 22:34:29:

In reply to: Dear CCJ... posted by Noli on October 10, 2002 at 19:11:27:

I can completely understand someone, anyone wanting to defend their
product. Please do not misunderstand that. And I also understand that
there are many, many issues playing here, so I'm not speaking
directly to the original issue brought up by Noli- that Catherine's
Mazaya is not his. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't; I don't know and I'm
not qualified to say.

I'm speaking of other issues. I read Organic Style and just a few
issues ago they did a sampling of some organic ice cream. They had a
page or two dedicated to giving each a grade based on taste, texture,
how well they stuck to the organic claim and so on. It was quite
informative and helpful as to what ice cream had what flavour and
texture according to the admittedly flavour biased opinions of those
tasting them. (Taste- very biased, far more so than a microscope,
which, as I understand it, has no rationalising or comprehension
capabilities whatsoever) What I could see was a manufacturer
complaining that the batch didn't meet specs or some such, I could
comprehend a manufacturer caring about those issues. What I would not
expect to see is a store that sells that product complaining about
the results of a taste test for a product that they don't create.
Come on, not one single supplier here in the states, let alone this
forum, harvests, packages, and exports "their" henna. You stand
behind its name, yes, and I can understand the emotional attachment
to your product, really, I can. What I do not understand is the
negative reaction to Catherine's work here (jeez, imagine if someone
else had done this).

This isn't based on samples, where she got them, who's they really
are or anything like that- this is about her looking at these
samples, WHEREVER they come from and giving a three criterion
breakdown of what a sample is or is not, what it has or has not and
how it reacts to a .3 tip. What is so damning about her looking at
these powders from an artists usability standpoint? Even good
watercolour companies rate their own products as to how well the
product stands up to certain issues and holds up over time and heck,
they even tell you what is in the product to boot. I believe they are
under regulations to do so. While henna is not under such regulations
and we should probably keep it that way, we have an obligation to the
art, the health of ourselves and clients to make sure that it is what
it says it is. We are under obligation to self regulate, since we
don't have any other way to guarantee that our money (sellers and
consumers) goes to a product that is what it states it is. Why is it
that sellers, yes, mere sellers of a product don't seem to be that
interested in their product, only its name?

Me, I'm concerned about the issue of a dye in my henna. When I say I
want 100% pure, natural unadulterated henna, I mean, damn! I don't
want anything else! I am not saying I want PPD free henna, no, that
isn't good enough, I want it ONE FREAKING HUNDRED PERCENT PURE
NATURAL NO DYE OF ANY TYPE henna. That is what I pay for, that is
what I want.

Are any one of you on this forum ready to say that if you were buying
tea and CCJ (or me or Faerie Ring, you know the science types!)
looked into it and found out that you weren't getting that fine
quality tea you were paying for, but something dyed to look fresh and
containing ANY content of grit (sand, dirt, twigs, other plants,
whatever, just not your tea)- that you would complain to the person
who found this out, NOT the manufacturer?? If so, then I would posit
that there are concerns here about something other than henna and
henna's quality. Dyes are UNnecessary and possibly harmful. And hey,
if it's chlorophyll, maybe it isn't harmless, but you know what?
Henna coloured with chlorophyll is not 100% pure henna and anyone who
tells you it is, is lying. Henna coloured with something
potentionally dangerous is doing something worse: endangering
themselves and the users. Who is ready to live with that? Me, I'll
take my henna DYE FREE and GRIT FREE and OTHER PLANT FREE. I want a
henna that performs well, but I want it to be HENNA. Nothing else.

Disclaimer, I'm not speaking to ANYONE in particular, I'm just taking
from what I have read. Please, no one should read this as a personal
note to/for/against anyone. I'm speaking about the issues here. We
all agree black henna is bad, why on earth do we seem to think dyed
green henna is okay, when we don't even know what the dye is, but
have some tentative hypothesis that it is something not good? I
recall years ago when there were people on this forum who were all
supportive of black henna and I read back and forth arguments about
the issue. Is this the new henna schism? Let's put this focus where
it belongs, people exporting henna that is dyed and not pure henna.
No one knew before now; now, no one has cause not to know. If you
stand behind your product, then stand behind it! Not beside it or in
front of it.



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