Txilar, i totally agree with that. N/t

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Posted by Nick on October 12, 2002 at 00:39:04:

In reply to: This is getting ridiculous! posted by txilar on October 11, 2002 at 22:34:29:

: I can completely understand someone, anyone wanting to defend their
: product. Please do not misunderstand that. And I also understand
: there are many, many issues playing here, so I'm not speaking
: directly to the original issue brought up by Noli- that Catherine's
: Mazaya is not his. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't; I don't know and
: not qualified to say.
: I'm speaking of other issues. I read Organic Style and just a few
: issues ago they did a sampling of some organic ice cream. They had
: page or two dedicated to giving each a grade based on taste,
: how well they stuck to the organic claim and so on. It was quite
: informative and helpful as to what ice cream had what flavour and
: texture according to the admittedly flavour biased opinions of
: tasting them. (Taste- very biased, far more so than a microscope,
: which, as I understand it, has no rationalising or comprehension
: capabilities whatsoever) What I could see was a manufacturer
: complaining that the batch didn't meet specs or some such, I could
: comprehend a manufacturer caring about those issues. What I would
: expect to see is a store that sells that product complaining about
: the results of a taste test for a product that they don't create.
: Come on, not one single supplier here in the states, let alone this
: forum, harvests, packages, and exports "their" henna. You stand
: behind its name, yes, and I can understand the emotional attachment
: to your product, really, I can. What I do not understand is the
: negative reaction to Catherine's work here (jeez, imagine if
: else had done this).
: This isn't based on samples, where she got them, who's they really
: are or anything like that- this is about her looking at these
: samples, WHEREVER they come from and giving a three criterion
: breakdown of what a sample is or is not, what it has or has not and
: how it reacts to a .3 tip. What is so damning about her looking at
: these powders from an artists usability standpoint? Even good
: watercolour companies rate their own products as to how well the
: product stands up to certain issues and holds up over time and
: they even tell you what is in the product to boot. I believe they
: under regulations to do so. While henna is not under such
: and we should probably keep it that way, we have an obligation to
: art, the health of ourselves and clients to make sure that it is
: it says it is. We are under obligation to self regulate, since we
: don't have any other way to guarantee that our money (sellers and
: consumers) goes to a product that is what it states it is. Why is
: that sellers, yes, mere sellers of a product don't seem to be that
: interested in their product, only its name?
: Me, I'm concerned about the issue of a dye in my henna. When I say
: want 100% pure, natural unadulterated henna, I mean, damn! I don't
: want anything else! I am not saying I want PPD free henna, no, that
: isn't good enough, I want it ONE FREAKING HUNDRED PERCENT PURE
: NATURAL NO DYE OF ANY TYPE henna. That is what I pay for, that is
: what I want.
: Are any one of you on this forum ready to say that if you were
: tea and CCJ (or me or Faerie Ring, you know the science types!)
: looked into it and found out that you weren't getting that fine
: quality tea you were paying for, but something dyed to look fresh
: containing ANY content of grit (sand, dirt, twigs, other plants,
: whatever, just not your tea)- that you would complain to the person
: who found this out, NOT the manufacturer?? If so, then I would
: that there are concerns here about something other than henna and
: henna's quality. Dyes are UNnecessary and possibly harmful. And
: if it's chlorophyll, maybe it isn't harmless, but you know what?
: Henna coloured with chlorophyll is not 100% pure henna and anyone
: tells you it is, is lying. Henna coloured with something
: potentionally dangerous is doing something worse: endangering
: themselves and the users. Who is ready to live with that? Me, I'll
: take my henna DYE FREE and GRIT FREE and OTHER PLANT FREE. I want a
: henna that performs well, but I want it to be HENNA. Nothing else.
: Disclaimer, I'm not speaking to ANYONE in particular, I'm just
: from what I have read. Please, no one should read this as a
: note to/for/against anyone. I'm speaking about the issues here. We
: all agree black henna is bad, why on earth do we seem to think dyed
: green henna is okay, when we don't even know what the dye is, but
: have some tentative hypothesis that it is something not good? I
: recall years ago when there were people on this forum who were all
: supportive of black henna and I read back and forth arguments about
: the issue. Is this the new henna schism? Let's put this focus where
: it belongs, people exporting henna that is dyed and not pure henna.
: No one knew before now; now, no one has cause not to know. If you
: stand behind your product, then stand behind it! Not beside it or
: front of it.
: peace,
: txilar


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