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Posted by txilar on October 17, 2002 at 20:53:28:

In reply to: Terps? posted by Stacey on October 17, 2002 at 20:29:53:

Hey Stacey,

Cool to have someone here with familiarity. Though it does seem that
it is certain types of terpenes- there are actual a few dozen
precursors, and forms of monoterpenes, which is really just a generic
word for a chemical chain. Cajeput and Cardamom have a specific
terpene, which is... alpha-terpineol I think. (and that's not just
the only form I don't think) They both blast henna stains. As to
citrus oils, they too have pretty high levels, but are known for
being photosensitizers and that can pose a problem for someone
hennaing at a festival. I usually use bergamot and lime in my
personal mixes, but I wouldn't use them outdoors. Especially on
anyone who loves the sun!

I've always been of the opinion that cineol/e is an important terpene
for henna as well, it's just hard to know when you have high ones,
too bad we can't tell looking at a bottle! Cardamom can have anywhere
from 550 ppm up to 56000 ppm- that's quite a difference! Rosemary can
have high numbers of this one and so do many different types of
Eucalyptus. Do the alpha terpineols, terpin4eols and cineol/es all
work together? Is it just one or just the other that affects the
henna? Does it work on the henna or does it collaborate with the
heat? Or the lemon juice? These are the questions that remain to be
answered. The more heads we have knocking, maybe the sooner we can
nail down our philosophers oil!


: Okay, I'm new here and new to henna-ing, but have been an
: aromatherapy practitioner and ayurvedic herbalist for years. What
: do you guys mean when you say "terp"-ing? Are you adding oils that
: are supposed to contain terpenes (or monoterpenes)? If that's the
: case, I have been reading that people use cardamom and cajeput to
: terp their paste? Well, if you are interested, cardamom only
: contains 6% terpenes and cajeput (member of the melaleuca family)
: contains less than 10%. My friend, a fellow aromatherapist, and I
: have been using just plain ol' Indian-store Mumtaz henna with oils
: that contain 85-95% terpenes and are getting fantastic stains that
: last weeks (with very short light orange periods). In our
: aromatherapy manuals we have found that the oils that contain the
: highest terpenes are most citrus oils (especially pink grapefruit
: and sweet orange) and the pines (mostly Siberian fir needle) (I
: would not recommend using the pines since many people experience
: allergic reactions and most people get along well with the citrus
: oils). My main recipe is to use lemon juice for the main
: constituent, then pink grapefruit, sweet orange or lime (2 or 3
: different ones). Also, since we live in Florida and have free
: access to Tupelo honey (ever see that movie "Ulee's Gold"?), we put
: a little in there and it keeps the paste moist and pliable while
: moisturing the skin under the paste... I've never gotten a better
: stain than what I get with this recipe.
: Just thought you'd like to know... please let me know if I'm way
: the mark about terpenes!
: Stacey in Florida


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