Re: henna pricing, sealing and wrapping products, wedding pricing

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Posted by Kenzi on May 31, 2001 at 04:30:57:

In reply to: henna pricing, sealing and wrapping products, wedding pricing posted by Nancy Mc on May 31, 2001 at 03:56:40:

: Just a couple of questions.....

---Just a couple of answers, from my experience:

: I am about to enter my third summer of henna art. When I first
: started, I was charging alot more money than I am now. I can't
seem
: to settle on comfortable prices. I've been doing alot of fairs and
: have divided designs into price categories......$5 designs, $6
: designs, up to 25-30 for a hand. I think I need some better
: guidelines to work with on my pricing. My five dollar designs take
: about 15 minutes, then I move them down the assembly line to be

----$5 for a 15 minute design! Ouch! Charge more, for sure. I
charge $10 minimum and a $10 design takes me about 5 minutes to do.
I dumped the $5 designs because mostly kids got them and often
smudged them. Also, a $5 design takes as long to dry and wrap as a
$10 design so it's not really economical. Having a $10 min. weeds
out the people who want a temporary tattoo or face painting kind of
stuff. Best decision i ever made.

-----I think $30 for one side of a hand is fair.

blow-
: dried. I'm about to do some work out of a tattoo shop and she
wants
: to do a 50/50 cut. Does anyone have feedback about a percentage
they
: have worked out with a shop or salon?

---I have heard that is the going rate with tattoo shops. I get 70%
with my salon, but I use them only for the space, they don't do
marketing or take appointments for me or anything.

: I also am about to do a wedding party for the first time...The
bride
: wants me to do both her hands and both feet........and her sister-
in-
: laws hands. I'm not sure what to charge her? I typically get 25-
30
: for just the tops of the hands. So, that would be close to $200.
: Does that sound exorbitant? I do have to travel about an hour to
get
: there. Help. Feedback....

----That isn't bad at all. Have you priced other wedding stuff like
hair, makeup, dresses etc? Wedding henna takes a long time because
it needs to be perfect, or close to it. The last time I did bridal
henna it took me 5 hours (including some extra henna for other people
at the party) so figure your hourly rate for that kind of work.
Also, if I were you I would charge for travel time and/or expenses.
That is time that you could, potentially, be spending with another
client.

: I'm just kindof ranting.....now we come to my constant source of
: discomfort in this business. The finishing off of the design. I
: always blow-dry my clients, use nu-skin, and paper tape. The tape
: leaves alot of residue. Even the nu skin sometimes is left on the
: skin and has to be peeled off. I definitely can't let people walk
: away without wrapping. I've seen kids smudge their designs in
about
: a second. I guess I want to have some ideas for an easier removal
of
: the tape & nu-skin or an alternative. Feedback about liquid latex
: too.......I don't mind doing alot of peeling, but my customers may
: find it to be a pain in the butt. That's the other thing that
: frustrates me. I don't get to hear back from alot of people about
: their designs. For awhile I handed out self-addressed postcards
for
: them to send back to me......with some questions like...how long
did
: the stain last.....was it dark enough..blah blah blah......hardly
: anyone ever sent it back to me. Sorry this is so lengthy.
: I know some people apply henna, tell people to leave on til dry and
: flake off but I want as dark a stain as possible so I can't do
: that. Is there another type of tape that doesn't leave so much
: residue?
: One more thing, is the spray nu-skin better than the
: liquid.....easier? does it remove easier? Do most people tape
over
: the sealant?
: One comment.....Fairs or craft festivals are definitely the way to
: go.....for me. I have been very successful at them. Non-stop
workkk
: all day and even having to turn people away at the end. It makes
: doing one person seem like such small peanuts.
: Thanks for reading this and for the future feedback.

----I agree, wrapping is essential. i give people the choice but
strongly suggest that they let us wrap them up, at least with New
Skin. My reputation is on the line so if their design doesn't come
out well my name will be mud around town. I give aftercare sheets to
clients and talk to them about what they need to do to get the best
color and have it last a long time. I think the time is worth it.

---I'm not crazy about spray New Skin because it gets all over
everything and also it has acetone in it which is pretty nasty stuff.

-----Liquid latex is great but not for bendy parts, such as wrists,
fingers, feets etc. Bending just pulls the henna off. It's great
for stomaches and backs etc. I have also had great results with New
Skin and liquid latex over that. I like the way it traps the heat of
the skin.

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: : Just a couple of questions..... : : ---Just a couple of answers, from my experience: : : : I am about to enter my third summer of henna art. When I first : : started, I was charging alot more money than I am now. I can't : seem : : to settle on comfortable prices. I've been doing alot of fairs and : : have divided designs into price categories......$5 designs, $6 : : designs, up to 25-30 for a hand. I think I need some better : : guidelines to work with on my pricing. My five dollar designs take : : about 15 minutes, then I move them down the assembly line to be : : ----$5 for a 15 minute design! Ouch! Charge more, for sure. I : charge $10 minimum and a $10 design takes me about 5 minutes to do. : I dumped the $5 designs because mostly kids got them and often : smudged them. Also, a $5 design takes as long to dry and wrap as a : $10 design so it's not really economical. Having a $10 min. weeds : out the people who want a temporary tattoo or face painting kind of : stuff. Best decision i ever made. : : -----I think $30 for one side of a hand is fair. : : blow- : : dried. I'm about to do some work out of a tattoo shop and she : wants : : to do a 50/50 cut. Does anyone have feedback about a percentage : they : : have worked out with a shop or salon? : : ---I have heard that is the going rate with tattoo shops. I get 70% : with my salon, but I use them only for the space, they don't do : marketing or take appointments for me or anything. : : : I also am about to do a wedding party for the first time...The : bride : : wants me to do both her hands and both feet........and her sister- : in- : : laws hands. I'm not sure what to charge her? I typically get 25- : 30 : : for just the tops of the hands. So, that would be close to $200. : : Does that sound exorbitant? I do have to travel about an hour to : get : : there. Help. Feedback.... : : ----That isn't bad at all. Have you priced other wedding stuff like : hair, makeup, dresses etc? Wedding henna takes a long time because : it needs to be perfect, or close to it. The last time I did bridal : henna it took me 5 hours (including some extra henna for other people : at the party) so figure your hourly rate for that kind of work. : Also, if I were you I would charge for travel time and/or expenses. : That is time that you could, potentially, be spending with another : client. : : : I'm just kindof ranting.....now we come to my constant source of : : discomfort in this business. The finishing off of the design. I : : always blow-dry my clients, use nu-skin, and paper tape. The tape : : leaves alot of residue. Even the nu skin sometimes is left on the : : skin and has to be peeled off. I definitely can't let people walk : : away without wrapping. I've seen kids smudge their designs in : about : : a second. I guess I want to have some ideas for an easier removal : of : : the tape & nu-skin or an alternative. Feedback about liquid latex : : too.......I don't mind doing alot of peeling, but my customers may : : find it to be a pain in the butt. That's the other thing that : : frustrates me. I don't get to hear back from alot of people about : : their designs. For awhile I handed out self-addressed postcards : for : : them to send back to me......with some questions like...how long : did : : the stain last.....was it dark enough..blah blah blah......hardly : : anyone ever sent it back to me. Sorry this is so lengthy. : : I know some people apply henna, tell people to leave on til dry and : : flake off but I want as dark a stain as possible so I can't do : : that. Is there another type of tape that doesn't leave so much : : residue? : : One more thing, is the spray nu-skin better than the : : liquid.....easier? does it remove easier? Do most people tape : over : : the sealant? : : One comment.....Fairs or craft festivals are definitely the way to : : go.....for me. I have been very successful at them. Non-stop : workkk : : all day and even having to turn people away at the end. It makes : : doing one person seem like such small peanuts. : : Thanks for reading this and for the future feedback. : : ----I agree, wrapping is essential. i give people the choice but : strongly suggest that they let us wrap them up, at least with New : Skin. My reputation is on the line so if their design doesn't come : out well my name will be mud around town. I give aftercare sheets to : clients and talk to them about what they need to do to get the best : color and have it last a long time. I think the time is worth it. : : ---I'm not crazy about spray New Skin because it gets all over : everything and also it has acetone in it which is pretty nasty stuff. : : -----Liquid latex is great but not for bendy parts, such as wrists, : fingers, feets etc. Bending just pulls the henna off. It's great : for stomaches and backs etc. I have also had great results with New : Skin and liquid latex over that. I like the way it traps the heat of : the skin.
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