Re: Since you addresses yourself to..MEDICAL ADVICE
Posted by Dara on October 24, 2001 at 20:25:03:
In reply to: Re: Since you addresses yourself to the forum in general - here are my responses posted by Dara on October 24, 2001 at 17:44:25:
: : MY RESPONSES HAVE BEEN POSTED IN CAPS ONLY TO DIFFERENTIATEBETWEEN
: : DARA'S STATEMENTS AND MY RESPONSE.
: : : Shannon,and anyone who wonders..
: : : Not everyone knows about the Henna page-or any other forums on
: the
: : : internet and many people still do not have computers to access
: : : information!
: : MANY PEOPLE DO HAVE COMPUTERS AND ACCESSING THE PAGE FOR $5 FOR
15
: : MINUTES IN AN INTERNET CAFE IS FAR CHEAPER THAN ANY PAY PER
MINUTE
: : SERVICE I HAVE EVER SEEN. I AM INTERESTED IN INFO BEING SPREAD
: : CHEAPLY BECAUSE I SEE RAISING AWARENESS AS A KEY TO KEEPING THE
ART
: : ALIVE. I DON'T SEE PAY PER MINUTE PHONE CALLS AS GOOD OR
: PROFITABLE
: : WAY TO DISSEMINATE INFO. THIS IS MY OPINION AND I COULD BE
WRONG.
: IF
: : YOU BUSINESS VENTURE WORKS OUT PLEASE FEEL FREE TO SHARE YOUR
: RESULTS.
: : IMMEDIATE answers people might need rather
: : : than having to wait even a few hours,as time is of the essence
in
: : : many situations,such as someone needing immediate advice with a
: bad
: : : ppd reaction!
: : PEOPLE HAVING ANY WORRISOME REACTION TO ANYTHING SHOULD SEEK
: : PROFESSIONAL MEDICAL HELP. SEARCHING FOR CLUES AS TO WHY YOU
SEEM
: : TO HAVING CHEST TIGHTNESS AND BLISTERING IS FINE ONCE YOU HAVE
MADE
: : CERTAIN THAT YOUR PROBLEMS WILL NOT WORSEN OR BECOME LIFE
: : THREATENING. I DON'T FEEL THE FORUM OR A PAY PER CALL PHONE
: SERVICE
: : IS FOR PEOPLE WHO FEAR THEIR HEALTH IS IMMEDIATELY THREATENED AND
: DO
: : YOU REALLY WANT YOUR BUSINESS TO BE LIABLE FOR PASSING OUT
MEDICAL
: : ADVISE. I THINK IT WOULD BE A VERY SHORT AND UNPROFITABLE PHONE
: CALL
: : IF THE ONLY THING YOU CAN LEGALLY SAY IS GO SEE A DOCTOR.
: : see people posting on here all the time who may not get an
answer
: : : to their sepcific question for several days,though most are
: : answered
: : : fairly quickly,someone who is panicky and scared of a reaction
: they
: : : are having may not necessarily want to WAIT even an hour for an
: : : answer much less a few hours or even days!
: : : I do not know why some people seem to have such a negative
: attitude
: : : toward this geez! I come on this forum and yes I have been
: posting
: : : for quite a while ,just not often,and I do visit the forum much
: : more
: : : than I post on it,and I thought people treated people fairly
here
: : and
: : : with at least as much respect as they would wish to be treated
: with
: : : but responses like these are anything but friendly and fair! :-(
: : I HAVE SEEN A GREAT DEAL OF KINDNESS, RUDENESS, SUPPORT AND
: : DISAGREEMENT ON THIS FORUM AND AM NOT SURE WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN
: READING
: : THAT MAKES YOU FEEL IT IS ALWAYS SWEETNESS AND BLISS IN THE
: COMPLETE
: : ABSENSE OF DISSENTING OPIONIONS. I HAVE BEEN READING AND POSTING
: : SINCE THE FALL OF '98. IT IS A DISCUSSION FORUM AND I EXPECT
: PEOPLE
: : TO DISCUSS THINGS AND NOT ALWAYS AGREE. RIGHT OR WRONG YOU
: CERTAINLY
: : BLASTED DARLA A FEW POSTS DOWN FOR EXPRESSING HER TAKE ON THE
ISSUE
: : AND THEN TOLD HER NOT TO BE A BRAINLESS SHEEP FOR DOING EXACTLY
: THAT.
: : IS THAT YOUR IDEA OF POLITE, FRIENDLY OR FARE?
: : : I posted here just offering a legitimate business opportunity
for
: : : someone who loved Henna ( and yes I am a Henna Artist,for many
: : years
: : : aside from being an American Indian Artist,and have been for
most
: : of
: : : my life as those of you have visited my web page are aware of )
: and
: : I
: : : actually thought it would be an excellent idea and had someone
in
: : : mind for it before I even ever posted about it as I thought
they
: : : would have fun doing it,as I think anyone would!That person
: : indicated
: : : they may have done it before when they were not so busy,but are
: too
: : : busy now,and i respect that as a person would have to devote
time
: : to
: : : it,jsut like anything else..
: : : I was also not counting on people on this forum to be the
people
: : who
: : : would call in-I posted here LOOKING FOR AN EXPERT who would
: : : appreciate the opportunity!I also thought i mentioend this was
a
: : : TRIAL thing,a NEW thing to see if there IS interest in it,and
: there
: : : definitely IS,much more interest and support for it than there
is
: : : agasint it (s far only two negative comments out of all the
: : responses
: : : I have received so far on the internet and off!
: : : YOU may not care for the idea,but that does not mean everyone
: else
: : : does not,and in fact,many people I have heard back from think
: itis
: : an
: : : EXCELLENT idea and want to do it themselves!
: : I DON'T THINK MY OPINION IS SO IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE WILL BLINDLY
: : FOLLOW IT IF YOU OFFER THEM SOMETHING THAT SOUNDS GOOD TO THEM.
: THEY
: : ARE PERFECTLY ABLE TO AGREE OR DISAGREE ALL ON THEIR OWN. IF
THEY
: : WANT TO TELL ME I'M A BITCH FOR WHAT I SAID IN MY POST THEY ARE
: : WELCOME TO DO THAT. FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS A WONDERFUL THING BUT
IT
: : ALSO GUARANTEES THAT YOU WON'T ALWAYS LIKE WHAT YOU HEAR.
: : Darla being one of
: : : them,being actually the first person from THIS forum to respond
: to
: : it
: : : and I do not know how you can be interested in something on the
: one
: : : hand and cut it down on the other,that is a bit odd to me,but
all
: I
: : : am trying to do is give someone an opportunity and I think
there
: is
: : : no reason to disprespect someone because you happen to not
agree
: : with
: : : it.I would not even THINK of doing that to anyone on this forum
: or
: : : anywhere else-not in my nature,
: :
: : PLEASE REREAD YOUR ANGRY, CRITICAL AND SELF-DAMNING RESPONSE TO
: BOTH
: : MYSELF AND DARLAHOODS COMMENTS BEFORE CLAIMING IT IS NOT IN YOUR
: : NATURE.
: : and I do not understand why you feel
: : : you have to make negative comments about it..if you are not
: : : interested-just go onto the next post.
: :
: : WHY SHOULD I NOT RESPOND TO A POST IF I DON'T AGREE WITH IT. I
: THINK
: : THAT SEPARATES ME FROM THE SHEEP AND THINK THE PURPOSE OF HAVING
A
: : DISCUSSION FORUM IS TO EXPRESS IDEAS AND OPINIONS. YOU HAVE
: WRITTEN
: : A VERY LONG LETTER EXPRESSING YOUR OPINIONS AS IS YOUR RIGHT.
WHY
: : SHOULD I NOT BE ABLE TO EXPRESS MINE? I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION
: : THAT WAS WHAT A FORUM WAS FOR.
: : That is what I do!
: : : All those who want to know more about it, can e-mail me and
ask!
: : : Simple as that! What is the big deal???
: : I AGREE-WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL?-PEOPLE ARE FREE TO DISREGARD ME AND
: ACT
: : AS THEY FEEL APPROPRIATE. I HAD NO IDEA ANYONE THOUGHT MY
OPINION
: : WAS SO IMPORTANT THAT THEY WOULD SET ASIDE THEIR BETTER JUDGEMENT
: : RATHER THAN FOLLOWING THEIR HEARTS AND HEADS. IN THINKING
: OTHERWISE
: : I THINK YOU DO NOT GIVE FORUM MEMBERS CREDIT FOR BEING ABLE TO DO
: : THEIR OWN THINKING.
: : : I also do not know why it makes a difference or what business
it
: is
: : : of anyone's how many people e-mailed me about this..?
: :
: : I NEVER ASKED AND AM NOT SURE WHY YOU HAVE ADDRESSED THIS TO ME.
: :
: : I tell you
: : : what,I have never felt so unwelcome anywhere in my life!
: :
: : IF ONE BITCHY POST MAKES YOU FEEL SO UNWELCOME PERHAPS YOU SHOULD
: NOT
: : EXPRESS YOUR OPINIONS ON THE INTERNET WHERE PEOPLE WILL RESPOND
TO
: : THEM AND CALL IT HOW THEY SEE IT. EVERYWHERE I'VE CHECKED THAT
: SEEMS
: : TO BE THE NATURE OF THE BEAST.
: :
: : : If people want to know about it,they can e-mail me themselves
and
: : : ask! They are big girls and boys! They do not need someone
: telling
: : : them what they should r should not be interested in!
: :
: : I DON'T REMEMBER STATING THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE AN OPINION OR A MIND
: OF
: : THEIR OWN. I WOULD BE HORRIBLY DISAPPOINTED IF THEY DIDN'T.
: : I do not like
: : : taking up forum space on stuff like this either as I stated
: : before,it
: : : seems ridiculuous and counter-productive for everyone.You have
: not
: : : seen me come on here and comment that any of your ideas are
: stupid
: : or
: : : unnecessary...nor would I.That is not for me to decide and it
is
: : : downright rude!
: : YOU CERTAINLY RIPPED INTO ME FOR THE IDEA THAT PROMPTED YOUR POST
: SO
: : APPARENTLY IT IS FOR YOU TO DECIDE WHOSE IDEAS ARE STUPID AND
: : UNNECESSARY.
: :
: : : Ideas are very relative and subject to individual opinions and
: : : preferences and it is pretty un-American for people to try and
: run
: : : anyones ideas into the ground!
: : Especially when they have no clue
: : : about it and have not even bothered to ask!
: : : Anyway,I thought anyone had the right to post Henna related
items
: : : here,but I guess I was wrong! :-\ I also thought anyoe could
post
: : : without being attacked or have to defend themselves,when the
: people
: : : making the negative comments have not even checked anything out
: yet!
: : : Or it is ok for anyone but me..for whatever strange reason?
: :
: : HOW HAVE I PREVENTED YOU OR ANYONE ELSE FROM POSTING? SINCE WHEN
: DID
: : PEOPLE NOT HAVE TO DEFEND THEIR IDEAS IN A DISCUSSION FORUM? IF
: : EVERYBODY AGREES THERE REALLY IS NOTHING TO DISCUSS. I COULDN'T
: STOP
: : PEOPLE FROM HAVING AN OPINION AND REALLY WOULDN'T WANT TO.
: : '
: :
: : : For the most part,everyone has been very nice and all,and only
a
: : : couple seem to have a problem with it for whatever reason and
: that
: : is
: : : your right,but it is not your right to disrespect someone you
do
: : not
: : : even know and insult their ideas..that is really rude.
: : : Anyway,if it would make a couple people feel better or more
: secure
: : or
: : : whatever if people with good or different and creative ideas
did
: : not
: : : post here maybe nobody should post! I have read some pretty out
: : there
: : : posts from people trying different things,and yes,they involved
: : : profiting from henna and their henna knowledge and talent and I
: saw
: : : people ENCOURAGING them and I may not have liked their
ideas,but
: of
: : : course said nothing so how is that any different than this idea
I
: : : would like to know..?
: :
: : : I have posted on other areas around the internet and nobody has
: : : reacted like this anywhere but on this forum! I think most
people
: : : will not of course,but for some reason,some people must just
feel
: : : better when they try and make other people feel bad.I would
never
: : do
: : : that-try and squelch a persons creativity or orginality.That
: seems
: : a
: : : strange attitude too for people posting on a Henna page,with
the
: : art
: : : of Henna being one of the most creative,expressive artforms
there
: : : is! :-\
: : : Believe it or not,I am a NICE person (if some people would
bother
: : to
: : : contact me and talk to me first they would have found that out!)
: :
: : I NEVER SAID YOU WEREN'T A NICE PERSON. I WAS COMMENTING ON YOUR
: : IDEAS NOT YOUR PERSONALITY. IF MY POST SEEMED UNNECESSARILY
BITCHY
: : ULTIMATELY I WILL BE THE ONE TO SUFFER AS IT WILL COLOR PEOPLES'
: : ATTITUDES TOWARD ME AND HOW THEY RESPOND TO MY ADVICE AND POSTS
IN
: : THE FUTURE. EVERYONE BEARS THEIR OWN RESPONSIBLITY FOR WHAT THEY
: : POST AND CHOOSE TO SHOW OTHER PEOPLE ABOUT THEMSELVES.
: :
: : and
: : : the person that does the Henna line will not only benefit from
: : : working taking calls,as i pay EXTREMELY well,but will benefit
: from
: : it
: : : for their Henna business also,so you tell me how that is bad
and
: if
: : : that makes me a horrible person for offering someone that kind
: of
: : : opportunity??? Geez! Excuse me for thinking I was going to help
: : : someone!
: : : I bet you did not think of that aspect of it huh?
: :
: : Anyway,I am not
: : : going to sit here and defend myself agasint something and a
: couple
: : of
: : : people who have negative attitudes about things..
: :
: : YOU HAVE JUST DEFENDED YOURSELF AT GREAT REPETITIVE RAMBLING
: LENGTH.
: : I WOULDN'T THINK YOU WOULD NEED MUCH MORE SPACE.
: :
: : : Just because you may have seens some obvious scammers on here
: : : offering bogus work at home schemes on here,that they charge
FEES
: : for
: : : (no fees here!)do not put that on me.I have been in business
with
: : my
: : : current company here since 1989 with ZERO complaints,ZERO BBB
: : : complaints,NO negative stuff whatsoever,and started this
netwrok
: : : BECAUSE of all the garbage I saw out there with fake
: Organizations
: : : scamming people and taking advantage of people working at home
: and
: : : such..so you are way off if you think this is a scheme as it is
: : : not,and i do not tell people they are going to be rich,or even
: : : guarantee they will make a lot of money,and am totally honest
: with
: : : people about the opportunity and what it may or may not do,and
: some
: : : people have the far-sightedness to beleive it will be a good
: thing
: : : and actually help people,and have the pioneering spirit it
takes
: to
: : : help make it work,and that is the person,or people if we decide
: to
: : : have more,that we will choose to do it.
: : : No negative people are needed Thank you!
: : : I have said more than enough,and do not care to keep going on
: with
: : : this,so if it becomes a problem for you webmaster,site
: owner,please
: : : fell free to remove my posts and this string from your forum.
: : : The last thing i want to do is negatively affect a wonderful
web
: : site.
: : : Dara
:
: Shannon-
: You have missed the entire point and convoluted my statements
beyond
: recognition.
: Yes,I did post that response to you (see your post and heading)and
: also to Darla and assumed you both would recognize which referred
to
: which.
: I NEVER intimated that Darla was a "Brainless Sheep"!!! Geez! Where
: do you see those words ANYWHERE in my posts?? It is not there so
you
: will not. Shows how easily one's words can be taken out of contexct
: and misinterpreted! That may be your interpretation,but it is
: certainly NOT what I meant and I think Darla knows that! I meant
none
: of the comments in my posts as an insult to Darla,yourself or
: anyone,and I apologize if you interpreted them that way,but I was
: letting you both know I was offended by your posts NOT because you
: posted your OPINION,which is of course your right or anyone's as
you
: stated,but because of the fact that neither of you bothered to
check
: it out first before making the comments.BIG difference!
: I stated that people should think for themselves rather than having
: to ask anyone else's approval,and find out for themselves about
: something by going directly to that person,the source,rather than
: going around every which way and asking other people.
: The best and most fair way to find out about an idea or a person or
a
: compnay is to go directly to that entity-not to people who know
: nothing about the idea or person or company!
: Yes,I have seen people disagree on this froum and every other,of
: course they do..BUT it has been in my estimation mostly
: jsutified,those that were criticized were usually doing something
: OBVIOUSLY scammish or hurtful to other people,and I was doing
: neither..
: As far as my post being "repetitive",sometimes something needs
: repeating in order for people to " get it ",obviously,and as far as
: my " rambling ",just because a person happens to be articulate and
: educated and knows how to converse they should not be criticized
for
: that either.You also missed the point I was making about a lot of
: people not having computers and not being aware of this forum or
any
: other-you are focusing just on YOUR experience and your knowledge
of
: this forum and that is limiting the scope of the idea..there is a
: pretty large percentage of the population who are interested in
Henna
: and who know NOTHING about it or have no computer,as I run into
them
: all the time in my Henna business,so there is definitely a market
for
: this.
: I also never said anyone else's ideas or opinions were stupid or
: unnecessary,where did you see that? You have it turned around
also,as
: you and Darla are the ones who were posting in response to MY Posts-
: not the other way around.
: Anyway,I think this topic is about worn out and I will agree that
you
: have the right to post whatever you want,but not if it hurts
someone
: else or what they are posting about,which is the basic point I was
: trying to make.
: There used to be rules of conduct on forums and the main one was
: always that people should refrain from posting negative and
critical
: comments about others and their ideas and posts but I guess to each
: his own.
: Dara
Shannon,
Just to clear this up,we do NOT and WOULD NOT give Medical Advice! I
have been in business for msyelf most of my life and this is just
common sense.You assumed that was what I was talking about again
without asking if it was.In the perhaps RARE event someone MAY call
in asking about this,we would only REFER them to a Doctor.
This was just an EXAMPLE of a reason someone may call,and we want to
make sure we have EVERYTHING covered as we believe if you are going
to do something,do it right and know about your business,as much as
possible and if a person did happen to call in for that reason we
would at least be able to give them that important information. You
do see people posting here for answers sometimes who do not know that
they should get to a Doctor because they may not realize what is
happening to them or what the burns were caused by until they start
to read or hear about the effects of the Black "Henna".
Dara
Follow Ups
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Nick 21:41:32 10/24/2001
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Shanon Lavender 20:02:29 10/25/2001
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- Re: Reminds me of someone..completely ot
Shanon Lavender 20:02:29 10/25/2001
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