I thought I was- Terpineol has lots o' synonyms

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Posted by txilar on August 10, 2001 at 04:01:52:

In reply to: Are you sure? posted by Faery Ring on August 10, 2001 at 00:37:52:

The stuff I typed out was from a botanical database. My first ref
tho, was Terpineol: 'Synonyms: terpene alcohol Molecular formula: C10
H18 O CAS No: 8000-41-7' from
[http://physchem.ox.ac.uk/MSDS/TE/terpineol.html]
Here, tho, is a site [http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/t0364.htm] giving
the MSDS on terpineol with the same CAS# as you have, and gives 3-
cyclohexene-1-methanol as yet another synonym. And yet another site
[http://gandalf.pp.orst.edu/msds/DATA%5C1118.htm] confirms CAS NO.:
08000-41-7. Though the OSHA site, gives terpineol the synonyms of 'a
mixture of alpha, gamma and beta ~' Now, I confess, I'm a bit
confused.

One thing to remember tho, is these constituents DO change. Upon
coming into contact with heat, light, other chemicals, molecules
start jumping and twisting and things simply change. Anyhow, some of
the MSD sheets list terpineol as a hazardous substance, AND most all
of that info comes from studies done on rats. If one is against
animal testing, thats just one more reason that an essential oil
might be better. I think it's best stated as terpineol, like henna,
has different grades, depending on its source. Like henna also, it
needs (possibly) more than just itself to work best, not just to
work. Henna with water will stain, but a time lapse mix with an
acidic substance will bring out the best stain. Specific things do
specific things, but synergy is never an option to overlook.
Especially in the chemical world. Is the scent of rose oil one key
alcohol? Or is it the combination of each constituent? Synthetically
created rose oil just is *not* the same. But it is one specific
compound tinkered with one other just enough to create the same
smell! Regardless, one should always go with the safest method that
they prefer.

: I have never found terpineol-just alpha-terpineol. Where did you
get
: that information? In all my searches I have never found
information
: on terpineol as being a precursor. All chemical references
describe
: it as being primarily alpha or some other isomer. Here is the CAS
#
: [98-55-5] 1-Methyl-4-Isopropyl-1-Cyclohexen-8-ol
:
: I don’t doubt that there may be other chemicals at may work to
: improve the stain but I am not entirely convinced that ‘the sum is
: greater then their individual parts’. I believe that there are
: specific compounds with specific actions. But I’ll admit I have
not
: done much testing in this area. I am getting some terpineol
isomers
: to test and I will let you know what I find. I haven’t ordered
from
: The Good Scents Company yet. I appreciate being able to review
their
: fragrance database. It’s very interesting.

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: The stuff I typed out was from a botanical database. My first ref : tho, was Terpineol: 'Synonyms: terpene alcohol Molecular formula: C10 : H18 O CAS No: 8000-41-7' from : [http://physchem.ox.ac.uk/MSDS/TE/terpineol.html] : Here, tho, is a site [http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/t0364.htm] giving : the MSDS on terpineol with the same CAS# as you have, and gives 3- : cyclohexene-1-methanol as yet another synonym. And yet another site : [http://gandalf.pp.orst.edu/msds/DATA%5C1118.htm] confirms CAS NO.: : 08000-41-7. Though the OSHA site, gives terpineol the synonyms of 'a : mixture of alpha, gamma and beta ~' Now, I confess, I'm a bit : confused. : : One thing to remember tho, is these constituents DO change. Upon : coming into contact with heat, light, other chemicals, molecules : start jumping and twisting and things simply change. Anyhow, some of : the MSD sheets list terpineol as a hazardous substance, AND most all : of that info comes from studies done on rats. If one is against : animal testing, thats just one more reason that an essential oil : might be better. I think it's best stated as terpineol, like henna, : has different grades, depending on its source. Like henna also, it : needs (possibly) more than just itself to work best, not just to : work. Henna with water will stain, but a time lapse mix with an : acidic substance will bring out the best stain. Specific things do : specific things, but synergy is never an option to overlook. : Especially in the chemical world. Is the scent of rose oil one key : alcohol? Or is it the combination of each constituent? Synthetically : created rose oil just is not the same. But it is one specific : compound tinkered with one other just enough to create the same : smell! Regardless, one should always go with the safest method that : they prefer. : : : : I have never found terpineol-just alpha-terpineol. Where did you : get : : that information? In all my searches I have never found : information : : on terpineol as being a precursor. All chemical references : describe : : it as being primarily alpha or some other isomer. Here is the CAS : # : : [98-55-5] 1-Methyl-4-Isopropyl-1-Cyclohexen-8-ol : : : : I don’t doubt that there may be other chemicals at may work to : : improve the stain but I am not entirely convinced that ‘the sum is : : greater then their individual parts’. I believe that there are : : specific compounds with specific actions. But I’ll admit I have : not : : done much testing in this area. I am getting some terpineol : isomers : : to test and I will let you know what I find. I haven’t ordered : from : : The Good Scents Company yet. I appreciate being able to review : their : : fragrance database. It’s very interesting.
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