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Posted by Robert on September 24, 2001 at 16:57:52:

In reply to: Re: It will take a lot of hands to pull heads out of dark places Kenzi! :-) posted by Kenzi on September 20, 2001 at 18:01:06:

: “They may try to appear to be brokering peace, but they don't do it
very fairly. They never ask Israel to stop building settlements in
Palestinian areas, kicking people out of their homes and land,
without
compensation or even explanation.”

The USA did ask for a moratorium on building. Please get your facts
straight. Why not protest against the Syrian occupying force in
Lebanon? What’s the difference?

:“… but we support many countries and groups that do
:not give all their citizens the right to vote, most notably China
and
:Kuwait. Saying that we don't support the PA because of their lack of
: democracy is absurd.”

USA does not support China. Sending the frigates and putting the Army
on alert after China was hinting at invasion of Taiwan proves that.
The only group that was against Saddam invading Kuwait and killing
innocents was the PLO. If you believe that USA was wrong in helping
save Kuwait then so be it.

: These countries do not support Israel to the tune of $14 million a
: day. And most of these countries don't play much of a role apart
from
: recognition of the government. The average Israeli family receives
: more in US government assistance than the average American family
on
: welfare.

Because the USA supports the only a democratic society in the Middle
East should make them pariahs and be attacked? Please explain why?

: You sound like you support the PLO and its policies. Or do you
agree that their campaign of educating genocide and lack of human
rights needs to be protested as much as the democratically elected
government of the USA?

“There is no clear line of blame in this because of the cyclical
nature of violence”

Yes there is clear blame. Terrorist murdered those people and they
are clearly to blame.

“I see that you only want facile explanations for what went on, that
the subtleties are too much”

I am not sure what you are saying here. Are you actually saying the
you are better able to understand these issues than I?

“but anything that any country or individual did to create or augment
hate can be said to culpable in this attack.”

Are you seriously saying that USA is culpable, as in guilty, of the
Sept. 11 attack?

Please reply because I sincerely do not understand, or want to
believe, that you think that USA is “culpable in this attack.”

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: : “They may try to appear to be brokering peace, but they don't do it : very fairly. They never ask Israel to stop building settlements in : Palestinian areas, kicking people out of their homes and land, : without : compensation or even explanation.” : : The USA did ask for a moratorium on building. Please get your facts : straight. Why not protest against the Syrian occupying force in : Lebanon? What’s the difference? : : :“… but we support many countries and groups that do : :not give all their citizens the right to vote, most notably China : and : :Kuwait. Saying that we don't support the PA because of their lack of : : democracy is absurd.” : : USA does not support China. Sending the frigates and putting the Army : on alert after China was hinting at invasion of Taiwan proves that. : The only group that was against Saddam invading Kuwait and killing : innocents was the PLO. If you believe that USA was wrong in helping : save Kuwait then so be it. : : : These countries do not support Israel to the tune of $14 million a : : day. And most of these countries don't play much of a role apart : from : : recognition of the government. The average Israeli family receives : : more in US government assistance than the average American family : on : : welfare. : : Because the USA supports the only a democratic society in the Middle : East should make them pariahs and be attacked? Please explain why? : : : You sound like you support the PLO and its policies. Or do you : agree that their campaign of educating genocide and lack of human : rights needs to be protested as much as the democratically elected : government of the USA? : : : “There is no clear line of blame in this because of the cyclical : nature of violence” : : Yes there is clear blame. Terrorist murdered those people and they : are clearly to blame. : : “I see that you only want facile explanations for what went on, that : the subtleties are too much” : : I am not sure what you are saying here. Are you actually saying the : you are better able to understand these issues than I? : : “but anything that any country or individual did to create or augment : hate can be said to culpable in this attack.” : : Are you seriously saying that USA is culpable, as in guilty, of the : Sept. 11 attack? : : Please reply because I sincerely do not understand, or want to : believe, that you think that USA is “culpable in this attack.”
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