Alhambra book

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Posted by Lauren on November 6, 2001 at 13:19:14:

In reply to: Re: Tanit statue posted by Catherine Cartwright Jones on November 6, 2001 at 00:11:51:

: The outline of toes and toenails on both feet indicate to me that
she
: is wearing sandals rather than shoes, and that she has a sole-dip
: henna consistant with hennaed women in the Levant during the same
: period. The toes are worn ... but they're there. Sandals are more
: consistant with period Levantine footware than shoes.

I don't see the toes. Since her other features are so finely done,
it makes sense that her toes would be more than a sketch. Since the
toe-area is as smooth as her face where the top layer hasn't
degraded, I assume that the toes are as originally scuplted save some
of the pigment has gone. I definitely see the red more on the
underside, though. I'm thinking those shoes look like the Moroccan
red leather slippers. I don't know how far back those go.

:
: Indicaton of fingertip henna is just visible on the middle finger
of
: the right hand. Ditto third and forth of left hand, just below the
: fingernail line. The hand and finger surface is degraded, so its
: difficult to evaluate the patterns on the back of the right hand.
: Could be henna. Could be tattoo. Could be crud.

Possible, but there are similar dark patches all over her skin where
henna likely wouldn't go. It seems unlikely that she would NOT be
hennaed, but I'm not sure if I would use this as evidence unless I
can see her close up and decide what is and isn't a trick of the
light. I'm going to write the Museum and see if i can find someone
to talk to about it.

: Looks to me as though there was harquus on her forehead and down
the
: nose consistant with Levantine harquus patterns of the same
period.
: Her eyebrows were certainly were over-painted. The chin's gone so
: can't evaluate that.

I thought those were likely harquus, too. What do you mean by
overpainted?

: BTW ... the source for that astrological painting IS in the
book ...
: try page 169.

you are correct. Thanks!

: Like the hennaed fingertips on the overleaf to p 97?

Again, I'm unsure that's henna. I did look at that picture but
decided it wasn't. The faces of the two center angels are "rusted"
in the same way and in the same colors that the hands, and on the
left angel, feet are. The hands and feet we can see clearly are
white and the lines between fingers and toes are clear. If this were
meant to be henna, I would expect that all the angels would have it,
or those that have it would have it in the same places if not
patterns. It looks like rust or corrosion to me. I would say the
angel in orange could have hennaed fingertips on his lower hand.

Am I being overly picky here? I don't know. Plane tickets...

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: : The outline of toes and toenails on both feet indicate to me that : she : : is wearing sandals rather than shoes, and that she has a sole-dip : : henna consistant with hennaed women in the Levant during the same : : period. The toes are worn ... but they're there. Sandals are more : : consistant with period Levantine footware than shoes. : : I don't see the toes. Since her other features are so finely done, : it makes sense that her toes would be more than a sketch. Since the : toe-area is as smooth as her face where the top layer hasn't : degraded, I assume that the toes are as originally scuplted save some : of the pigment has gone. I definitely see the red more on the : underside, though. I'm thinking those shoes look like the Moroccan : red leather slippers. I don't know how far back those go. : : : : : Indicaton of fingertip henna is just visible on the middle finger : of : : the right hand. Ditto third and forth of left hand, just below the : : fingernail line. The hand and finger surface is degraded, so its : : difficult to evaluate the patterns on the back of the right hand. : : Could be henna. Could be tattoo. Could be crud. : : Possible, but there are similar dark patches all over her skin where : henna likely wouldn't go. It seems unlikely that she would NOT be : hennaed, but I'm not sure if I would use this as evidence unless I : can see her close up and decide what is and isn't a trick of the : light. I'm going to write the Museum and see if i can find someone : to talk to about it. : : : Looks to me as though there was harquus on her forehead and down : the : : nose consistant with Levantine harquus patterns of the same : period. : : Her eyebrows were certainly were over-painted. The chin's gone so : : can't evaluate that. : : I thought those were likely harquus, too. What do you mean by : overpainted? : : : BTW ... the source for that astrological painting IS in the : book ... : : try page 169. : : you are correct. Thanks! : : : Like the hennaed fingertips on the overleaf to p 97? : : Again, I'm unsure that's henna. I did look at that picture but : decided it wasn't. The faces of the two center angels are "rusted" : in the same way and in the same colors that the hands, and on the : left angel, feet are. The hands and feet we can see clearly are : white and the lines between fingers and toes are clear. If this were : meant to be henna, I would expect that all the angels would have it, : or those that have it would have it in the same places if not : patterns. It looks like rust or corrosion to me. I would say the : angel in orange could have hennaed fingertips on his lower hand. : : Am I being overly picky here? I don't know. Plane tickets...
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