I agree--

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Posted by Nick on July 18, 2001 at 18:56:08:

In reply to: Re: Grainy and bad vibes posted by Anne Beltestad on July 18, 2001 at 18:45:32:

Another thing i want to say, is please don't put down those of us who
are defending the forum. As you may have noticed down there, a lot of
people seem quite united in the opinion that the 'paid to sell'
stance is no fun. It's hard to ignore when people keep pushing ads in
your face. So we really are trying to do something about that, and
unfortunately, the only way to do that in this case has been to have
a bit of an argument. Everything can't always be perfect, and there
will always be the occasional conflict. You have to live with it and
slide with it, cuz it will pass.
~Nick

: I haven't had my paste get grainy, but then I usually don't strain
: after mixing, but before. We use cake-decorating tubes, not
: j-bottles, and find it way easier to sift the henna (the fred-o-
matic
: is neat, but pantyhose work ok too) then strain the lemon, tea
: mixture, etc.
: As for the bad vibes below, that stuff dismays me, too. I was
going
: to post something to that effect until I saw you'd already done so.
: I think this forum was started in a spirit of sharing, of education
: and non-competitiveness, which for me at least was refreshing after
a
: run-in with the local "McMehndi" artist who is just plain mean.
: I found this forum to be pleasant, friendly, etc., Catherine mailed
me
: henna and designs, I met Kree through here, and so on.
: Lately the vibe has changed, and it's sad.
: I have no problem with objective statements about particular
: suppliers' products, but I do have a problem with people being paid
to
: post here, being here for no other reason than to sell, sell, sell,
: putting down other products in favor of theirs, etc.
: There is a larger problem which to me is one of attitude. There
seem
: to be more put-downs than usual, and a certain measure of
: arrogance/defensiveness that is really unpleasant.
: I agree about standards. We used to have them, or perhaps it was
: simply the unspoken agreement among adults. Whatever, this forum
: would be well-served to return to such standards.
:
: trying not to sound TOO much like a grad student,
:
: Anne Beltestad
:
: : it is represented in that war. Anyone who came to the forum
within
: : the last 2 weeks for the first time must truly have a strange
: : perspective about what goes on here. Glad I found the forum a
few
: : weeks prior and know what usually goes on here. I am glad you
: posted
: : because I was thinking that I was the only one turned off by it.
: :
: : Maureen

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Re: I agree-- Maureen 21:19:49 7/18/2001 (0)
Exactly! Anne Beltestad 20:18:26 7/18/2001 (1)
- Re: Exactly! LORRY 17:24:32 7/19/2001 (0)

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: Another thing i want to say, is please don't put down those of us who : are defending the forum. As you may have noticed down there, a lot of : people seem quite united in the opinion that the 'paid to sell' : stance is no fun. It's hard to ignore when people keep pushing ads in : your face. So we really are trying to do something about that, and : unfortunately, the only way to do that in this case has been to have : a bit of an argument. Everything can't always be perfect, and there : will always be the occasional conflict. You have to live with it and : slide with it, cuz it will pass. : ~Nick : : : : : I haven't had my paste get grainy, but then I usually don't strain : : after mixing, but before. We use cake-decorating tubes, not : : j-bottles, and find it way easier to sift the henna (the fred-o- : matic : : is neat, but pantyhose work ok too) then strain the lemon, tea : : mixture, etc. : : As for the bad vibes below, that stuff dismays me, too. I was : going : : to post something to that effect until I saw you'd already done so. : : I think this forum was started in a spirit of sharing, of education : : and non-competitiveness, which for me at least was refreshing after : a : : run-in with the local "McMehndi" artist who is just plain mean. : : I found this forum to be pleasant, friendly, etc., Catherine mailed : me : : henna and designs, I met Kree through here, and so on. : : Lately the vibe has changed, and it's sad. : : I have no problem with objective statements about particular : : suppliers' products, but I do have a problem with people being paid : to : : post here, being here for no other reason than to sell, sell, sell, : : putting down other products in favor of theirs, etc. : : There is a larger problem which to me is one of attitude. There : seem : : to be more put-downs than usual, and a certain measure of : : arrogance/defensiveness that is really unpleasant. : : I agree about standards. We used to have them, or perhaps it was : : simply the unspoken agreement among adults. Whatever, this forum : : would be well-served to return to such standards. : : : : trying not to sound TOO much like a grad student, : : : : Anne Beltestad : : : : : it is represented in that war. Anyone who came to the forum : within : : : the last 2 weeks for the first time must truly have a strange : : : perspective about what goes on here. Glad I found the forum a : few : : : weeks prior and know what usually goes on here. I am glad you : : posted : : : because I was thinking that I was the only one turned off by it. : : : : : : Maureen
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